Sorry for the late reply. I was having to do the whole dad thing. You know what I'm saying.... Or you probably don't.Those of us who use our computers to make money, i.e. professionals, know that buying a close-to-top-of-the-line computer saves "many more moneys" in the long run. I usually build my own, which usually saves about 25% on cost, while letting me get exactly what I want. My cheapest build ever was $1600, and took first place in the Mastercam benchmarks for a few months. My current rig was $2500, which I bought complete, as I needed it while video cards were in short supply. As the owner of the business, I'm not going to waste my money by buying hobbyist level equipment; the computer equivalent of a Tormach. Every time you find yourself waiting for your computer, just think about how you're waiting 50% longer than you should be. Add up all that time over the life of the computer and see what it costs.
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I went back and reread your second post, where you described that you waited only a few hours before ordering your $2100 laptop, then trying to upgrade, then cancelling and buying something old and cheap. I need to correct myself; the Xeon E-2176M, which appears to be what is in your cheap laptop, is less than half as fast as what you could have gotten for $2200, so you'll be waiting more than twice as long as needed. But if that's fine for your application, then ignore everything I've said. If you had asked for the cheapest machine capable of limping along in Mastercam, I would have given you different advice.
Would you like a cookie? The cost of your computers is what defines you? Do you really want to go down a list of material objects we own? Okay, you're a baller, you invest in expensive computers! You're a professional? Well I'm professionally leading 4 new die builds. I've done sent 2 others out already this year. I'm a professional die builder, and tool maker. So you can F off with your professional BS. I never aspired to be a CNC programmer, but everyone they kept hiring to fill the role was too incompetent to do the job. Same for programming 2 different waterjets, and a burn/plasma table. It found me, I didn't look for it. But I'm not talking shit. I learned to enjoy programming, and got pretty damn good at it. CNC will spoil your ass all the stuff you can do with it. If I was in market for a job I wouldn't be opposed to taking another CNC job as long as I'm not just some operator pushing cycle start.
Here's where my interest for CAD comes in. I was hired by a large company to be a manual tool maker for their engineering and maintenance departments. It was a nice gig, I had my own little tool room, with 2 fresh Bridgeports, a surface grind, a really nice lathe, drill press, saw, Miller mig, etc. Well the engineers had a waterjet that 2 of them ran. Both of these 2 guys found a new jobs within a month of one another. So they came to my 10 years as a manual machinist, no CNC experience ass, and said, "we need someone to run the waterjet. Here's a computer with AutoCAD, there's a waterjet. Learn how to draw on AutoCAD, and transfer it to the waterjet, and figure out how to operate it. I give OMAX huge props because I was always on the phone with them trying to learn this machine, and damn the company I worked for, for not being willing to fly me out to Washington to take the week long course that OMAX gave out for no extra cost to one of their waterjet customers. But OMAX's customer service was great, and they spent a lot of time over the phone helping an ignorant manual machinist learn how to get proficient on it. After 4 or 5 months I had gotten really good at running that machine, all while being the engineering departments bitch tool maker who had to do more designing than that grow of very unskilled engineers. Very shocking how such a large, mainstream company functioned with such poor engineers. Anyway I left there for a more convenient job that was much closer and paid a little more than I was making. They wanted me to run a waterjet and program their plasma/burn table, and I was supposed to replace their manual tool maker when he retired. I was again given AutoCAD's basic 2D program, and some old program called SigmaNest to transfer the drawings to the burn table and jet. I was really good at that job, but the guy I was supposed to replace in the tool room wouldn't retire even though he was 80 something years old, and even at that point if he did retire I doubt they would of taken me off of what I was doing because I was too good at it. Seeing as I didn't want to get stuck programming waterjets and burn tables for the rest if my life, and wanted back into the machinist trade I took a job that came with a really big pay bump as a manual machinist for a company that manufacturers automated machines. Well that lasted 4 months because they hired 2 guys to run their big HAAS mill in that time, and neither did it very well so they asked me to do it. So now I had to learn G codes and M codes and use Mastercam, etc. I really didn't want to do it, but I figured it was a good opportunity to learn CNC to add that to my resume, but I learned to like it. CNC will spoil your ass. I did that and ran a HAAS CNC lathe for about 4.5 years. Then my original boss at the job I started at, and worked at for 9 years and learned how to be a die builder called and asked me to come back, and he gave me enough incentives to go back to die building. Pretty much all I'm doing is building new dies. All the die repair is going elsewhere. I like building dies. I find it rewarding to complete a new die that going to stamp out parts that go into things that we all use. Still I left my original career job in 03/13, and that I started in 03/04 and from them until November I spent much of that time programming and drawing on 2D software. When I got efficient at it I learned to like it. It sure was convenient being able to draw something up real quick, and I like the design aspect that comes with it also. Now you know. My career doesn't revolve around sitting on my ass and drawing on a computer all day. For the most part I ran all my own programs other than the burn/plasma table. As far as 3D I have no experience other than Mastercam, and my old laptop will run Fusion360, but not very well. I'm not paying for a SolidWorks, or any other expensive license. This is home/hobby shit. Free version of Fusion360 or FreeCAD is good enough. This isn't a moneys venture. Now do you understand? I don't need a powerhouse computer to do that, and I'm pretty my computer I ordered will run most any 3D cad programming just fine. If you need proof the here:
Lesser GPU, but updated to 128 GB RAM on this guys $500 Precision 7530.
I really don't think you need proof, but you're talking shit because you've let your ego get involved, and it has you arguing like one of these modern day, cackling bitches who wouldn't own the truth if it hit them in the face. Instead of just manning up and saying, "hey man, my bad. I should of read your post better, and now that I realize that I was speaking off incorrect knowledge I apologize for running my keyboard mouth." Instead you double down and try to flip shit to turn an argument in your favor. (Just like a bitch would do)
You build computers? I build AK's, I assemble AR's, I mod cars/truck, I build dies, but props to you for your ability to assemble a computer.
BTW tell that backwards gaf Dodgin to get off your dick. It's just weird. It's F'in pathetic that you need your cheerleader boys to come in here and take your back for you not even being able to interpret a simple post. Also tell his brokeback ass to quit confusing me with his momma, because I'm anything but broke, even with 3 kids under 3 years old, and if you need proof, and want me to stunt then I can do that as well. In fact I'll be happy to do it. If he want to know about my gaming habits then sometimes I'll play some RDR2 or Sniper Elite 4/5 on my Xbox. That's about it. When the new Forza comes out I'll likely pick it up as well.
And please show me that $2,200 computer that can run at 8.8 GHz.?.? I'd like to see it. And don't show some build that you put together on Tiger Direct where you build some desktop with a ballin ass CPU, while everything else is hugely budgeted to prove that you can achieve 8.8 GHz or better for $2,200.