Barnes Velocipede Metal Lathe - input please

[L Vanice]

...My plan is to someday use a 10 speed bike setup, put ball bearings in the head stock and a large heavy flywheel to drive the spindle. That would allow the flywheel to spin while the pedals coasted. ...

Coincidentally, two days ago I was taking a Google trip to England to see Lancaster Castle and saw this photo, taken there in August, 2016. "Wand" is a thing from the Harry Potter books, and they seem popular as small lathe projects with a ready fan market. I cannot see how the exercise bike is connected to that industrial grade wood lathe.

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Larry

 

[maynah]

Brian a few days ago someone posted about Lindsay Publications going out of business and were selling everything very inexpensively. I bought a few books and one of them is "Barnes' Metal Working Machinery". Lots of great pictures and information.
Cost?...$1.49 plus shipping which is also inexpensive with media mail.
I got 10 books and the most expensive by far was "The Wonders of Machinery Hall" about the 1893 Columbian Exposition in Chicago, at a whopping $4.99.
It's a full size, glossy covered, 192 page book with lots of pictures.
Give their website a look.

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[BrianInVA]

Brian a few days ago someone posted about Lindsay Publications going out of business and were selling everything very inexpensively. I bought a few books and one of them is "Barnes' Metal Working Machinery". Lots of great pictures and information.
Cost?...$1.49 plus shipping which is also inexpensive with media mail.
I got 10 books and the most expensive by far was "The Wonders of Machinery Hall" about the 1893 Columbian Exposition in Chicago, at a whopping $4.99.
It's a full size, glossy covered, 192 page book with lots of pictures.
Give their website a look.

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Awesome, thank you! I just ordered a copy of Barnes' Metal Working Machinery.

 

[BrianInVA]

Looks like a full set of change gears. We took the seat off before I headed home.

 

[L Vanice]

Jackpot!

Larry

 

[maynah]

Looks good.

 

[BrianInVA]

I’m still holding out hope for a Barnes velocipede wood lathe though.

If you know of anyone willing to trade this Barnes 4 1/2 with this metal workers box full of accessories, please let me know. I realize that is an outside chance given the wood lathe version is more rare, but I’m just looking for one that works well.

It doesn’t have to be pretty. It doesn’t even have to have the original seat and assembly, as long as the pedal mechanism and flywheel work and spin the headstock correctly.

 

[BrianInVA]

I think I figured out part of the problem of using this to turn wood.

There are two 4 jaw metal lathe chucks included. I can use a thread adapter on my modern Nova wood lathe chuck and hold the spindle end of the adapter in one of these original four jaw Metal lathe chucks to use the Nova chuck to turn wood on the Barnes lathe:

 

[L Vanice]

Four-jaw chucks can hold square pieces of wood, or even round pieces. Or hold a 5/8 diameter round steel stub, in turn holding a Shopsmith driving spur center. With luck, the tailstock is 2MT and will hold a standard cup center.

The four-jaw chuck above is self-centering, so it will probably not hold round stock perfectly centered.

Does the lathe threading chart say what model it is?

Larry

 

[jim rozen]

Steady rest and follower rest as well. *Absolute* jackpot.

 

[BrianInVA]

Four-jaw chucks can hold square pieces of wood, or even round pieces. Or hold a 5/8 diameter round steel stub, in turn holding a Shopsmith driving spur center. With luck, the tailstock is 2MT and will hold a standard cup center.

The four-jaw chuck above is self-centering, so it will probably not hold round stock perfectly centered.

Does the lathe threading chart say what model it is?

Larry

From my research so far and input from Ed Hobbs, this is a Barnes 4 1/2.

These models have an MT1 headstock and tail stock apparently. So I can just pick up MT1 drive and live centers - IF that’s the case.

Tomorrow I’ll lay out all the accessories in the wooden box that came with it, take more photos and post them. There’s a lot of little odds and ends in there that I don’t know what they are.

The headstock does spin free and smooth so it wasn’t affected by running it with the electric motor, which I removed before I headed home.

 

[BrianInVA]

Chucks:

 

[BrianInVA]

Four-jaw chucks can hold square pieces of wood, or even round pieces. Or hold a 5/8 diameter round steel stub, in turn holding a Shopsmith driving spur center. With luck, the tailstock is 2MT and will hold a standard cup center.

The four-jaw chuck above is self-centering, so it will probably not hold round stock perfectly centered.

Does the lathe threading chart say what model it is?

Larry

I’m pretty sure this set includes a drive center that will work with wood as well as several dead centers:

 

[L Vanice]

I’m pretty sure this set includes a drive center that will work with wood as well as several dead centers:

I don't know how much wood turning experience you have, so I will warn you not to use a metal turning 60 degree center in the tailstock to turn wood. It will split the wood. Only use a cup center with a central point in the tailstock for wood turning. Cup centers can be either solid (use candle wax or similar for lube) or ball bearing style (no lube required).

Larry

 

[BrianInVA]

I am curious if this might be an MT1 to 3/4" x 10tpi spindle adapter.

 

[BrianInVA]

Ok, here’s all the contents of the wooden box that was included with this lathe:

 

[BrianInVA]

 

[BrianInVA]

 

[dundeeshopnut]

Dude! You have got 7-8 hundred bucks in tooling [rough estimate], the lathe was free! Great score! Not many machines that old THAT complete!

 

[BrianInVA]

Dude! You have got 7-8 hundred bucks in tooling [rough estimate], the lathe was free! Great score! Not many machines that old THAT complete!

Thanks. Unfortunately I’m just a wood turner, not a machinist. I’m not sure what to do with all of this.

I’d really like to trade all this for a working Barnes velocipede wood lathe.