British machine tool sub forum

[legoboy]

It would seem appropriate to have a British machine sub-forum. Colchester, Elliott, Boxford, Smart and Brown, Myford, can't think of any others off the top of my head. They are all quality brands. Is this possible?

 

[lucky7]

Binns and Berry??

(blech)

 

[guythatbrews]

Wallace and Gromit?

 

[GregSY]

There was going to be one until the dental insurance costs came in.

 

[DDoug]

There is plenty enough sub forums.
Some people multiple cross post saturation bomb postings because they think the sub forums don't get enough traffic.

 

[technocrat]

I agree there are enough sub-forums. Being from the colonies, I know a bit about british machinery and would not be able to assist if they were posted in forums other than general. I really only have time to check the general forum.

 

[triumph406]

Binns and Berry??

(blech)

Twig and Berries?

 

[MrStretch]

Wouldn't most British machinery be considered "vintage" these days and therefore fit in the antique machines sub-forum?

 

[Limy Sami]

Binns and Berry??

(blech)

They aren't known as Dustbins ** & Bury for nothing

(** what we Brits call a Trashcan)

 

[legoboy]

Wouldn't most British machinery be considered "vintage" these days and therefore fit in the antique machines sub-forum?

Well if you use that logic then more than half of the subforums would fit that same description. Monarch, Bridgeport, Southbend, 80's Deckels..etc. I am just thinking that there is enough British machine enthusiasts to merit its own sub forum. It's no different than when I have a Deckel related question I go to the Deckel sub forum.

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

They aren't known as Dustbins ** & Bury for nothing

(** what we Brits call a Trashcan)

I worked on a lot of those and they were embarrassing. Third world quality. Possibly the worst machine tool I ever encountered.
Their sales director lady was nice though. A bit like a young Glenda Jackson.

Regards Tyrone

 

[Limy Sami]

I worked on a lot of those and they were embarrassing. Third world quality. Possibly the worst machine tool I ever encountered.
Their sales director lady was nice though. A bit like a young Glenda Jackson.

Regards Tyrone

I've never used one - seen a few and was far from impressed, .......... as I've met a few who'd driven them, and were equally unimpressed.

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I've never used one - seen a few and was far from impressed, .......... as I've met a few who'd driven them, and were equally unimpressed.

They hadn’t a redeeming feature Sami. They were really low to the ground, all the hand wheels felt ” spongy “ with no real feel, the nut on the cross slide was made from plastic, the hydraulic drive was ok when new but soon developed annoying faults like refusing to stop when put in the stop position. Try miking a large shaft that is slowly revolving ! Any real problems with the hydraulics and you would have had to lift the whole lathe with the overhead crane and work underneath it ! You had to drag the tailstock up and down the bed with a piss poor fixture on the saddle that was forever getting torn off because there was no interlock. The feed lever had a habit of jamming in under a heavy cut so you had to stamp on it to get it to dis-engage. Luckily the lever was a shin height !

Regards Tyrone

 

[Limy Sami]

They hadn’t a redeeming feature Sami. They were really low to the ground, all the hand wheels felt ” spongy “ with no real feel, the nut on the cross slide was made from plastic, the hydraulic drive was ok when new but soon developed annoying faults like refusing to stop when put in the stop position. Try miking a large shaft that is slowly revolving ! Any real problems with the hydraulics and you would have had to lift the whole lathe with the overhead crane and work underneath it ! You had to drag the tailstock up and down the bed with a piss poor fixture on the saddle that was forever getting torn off because there was no interlock. The feed lever had a habit of jamming in under a heavy cut so you had to stamp on it to get it to dis-engage. Luckily the lever was a shin height !

Regards Tyrone

YIKES !! ...and I thought my old Logan was rough.

 

[DDoug]

Well if you use that logic then more than half of the subforums would fit that same description. Monarch, Bridgeport, Southbend, 80's Deckels..etc. I am just thinking that there is enough British machine enthusiasts to merit its own sub forum. It's no different than when I have a Deckel related question I go to the Deckel sub forum.

Numbers, show some numbers.

Do a search on here, and count up all the machine tool postings that you think should go into this proposed forum.

Report back, and justify your request.

Simply doing "Arm waving" never works.

 

[Marty Feldman]

I'm 100% with DD. Once the fussy splitting starts, there is no end to multiplying forums, and every new one slows down the works. We are fine with what we have is what I'm thinking.

-Marty-

 

[legoboy]

I'm 100% with DD. Once the fussy splitting starts, there is no end to multiplying forums, and every new one slows down the works. We are fine with what we have is what I'm thinking.

-Marty-

The reason I brought up the point is when discussing a particular type of machine it shouldn't be difficult to find the right sub-forum. When I want to discuss my Deckel I go directly to the most relative Forum. When discussing British machine tools that isn't the case. Colchester, Boxford , Elliott and Smart and Brown are more related to each other than to a generic title like vintage machinery. When discussing a Southbend from the 30's you go to the Southbend sub forum not the vintage machinery even though you could say it fits in that category. So I guess the question is what was or is the criteria for having a separate sub-forum and what is the logistics of creating one. If it is simply up to the discretion of the owner of the site and he/she doesn't want to add it, then I am good with that. That is his/her prerogative. I was merely making a suggestion based on the fact that when I want to ask a question or make a post about one of my British machines it isn't intuitive or obvious where to Post.
So maybe if there are not enough British machine owners to justify their own sub form we should at least make it more obvious where to do so.

 

[DDoug]

The reason I brought up the point is when discussing a particular type of machine it shouldn't be difficult to find the right sub-forum. When I want to discuss my Deckel I go directly to the most relative Forum. When discussing British machine tools that isn't the case. Colchester, Boxford , Elliott and Smart and Brown are more related to each other than to a generic title like vintage machinery. When discussing a Southbend from the 30's you go to the Southbend sub forum not the vintage machinery even though you could say it fits in that category. So I guess the question is what was or is the criteria for having a separate sub-forum and what is the logistics of creating one. If it is simply up to the discretion of the owner of the site and he/she doesn't want to add it, then I am good with that. That is his/her prerogative. I was merely making a suggestion based on the fact that when I want to ask a question or make a post about one of my British machines it isn't intuitive or obvious where to Post.
So maybe if there are not enough British machine owners to justify their own sub form we should at least make it more obvious where to do so.

Lot's of arm waving, no hard numbers as of yet.
Get busy !

 

[legoboy]

Lot's of arm waving, no hard numbers as of yet.
Get busy !

Ok, I am not sure how I am suppose to do that. If I do a search of any of the British machine tool manufactures I get a multitude of pages for each brand and there is no consistency as to which forum they are posted in. What you are after is statistics, which I either do not know how to collect or is not available to me. The moderators may have a better idea of how to accomplish this. I do see what you are trying to accomplish in trying to put the responsibility of the issue back onto me for simply asking the question. If the owner-moderator would like to shed some light as to the criteria for having a sub-forum I am all ears. I think that is a fair request, don't you?

 

[Limy Sami]

Hard #

While I see the OPs point, IMO the best place is Antiques and History, .............. especially as we haven't had a British machine tool industry for eons.