Rcgiovannani
Aluminum
- Joined
- Apr 6, 2015
Hello,
I am currently in the market for a new machine. I would like to go in the direction of Micro Machining because most of the parts I make and quote can fit into less than a 1-2" cube and use tooling that is smaller than 1/16" in diameter. Mostly cutting non-ferrous materials, but I see 303, 304, and 410 SS from time to time (all small parts). Would like to have 3+2 capabilities, but would need at least 3+1. Tolerances I usually work with are +/-.0002" (this is usually only one or two dimensions on a print and are usually less than .1875").
I have looked at the following threads:
It seems like there isn't much information on micro machining on the internet. I'm trying to find someone with some personal experience with any of the machines below.
Here are the machines on my list:
Haas CM-1 - Honestly, I'd buy this machine rather quickly with the TRT70 if I could just see some more YouTube videos of it. I'm also concerned with the accuracy and repeatability of this machine considering Haas' thermal management (which is basically nothing except timers). I haven't really found anything online (except from Haas themselves) about it. This machine is well within budget even with 5-axis.
Datron Neo - I'm actually going to see a demo tomorrow for the Neo. The thing that gives me pause with this machine is that every opinion I've read about it is that it is mostly suitable for plate work. I've heard that it is very rigid and accurate. It's only available with up to 4 axis and I'm not sure if it is "flexible" enough for a job shop. Looking about in the $150k range with the options I'd like. This is doable from a budget standpoint. John Saunders from NYC CNC seemed to like it when he had one on demo. Thermal management is important and I will make sure to ask Datron tomorrow how the Neo deals with it.
Tsugami VA2 - Not much info on this machine is available. Currently awaiting a quote from Morris Group on one of these. Like the Datron, I believe it is only up to 4 axis. Awaiting on confirmation from Morris on that, though. Not sure how Tsugami manages thermals but I'm sure Morris group can give me that answer.
Considering:
Brother S300 - There's lots of information on this machine - just not sure how accurate it is.
Robodrills (Not very familiar with anything FANUC related)
Machines that are most likely out of reach lol:
DMG MORI HSC20
Makino V22
Yasda YMC430
Kern MICRO
Mikron HSM200
Used machines that would be okay, but seem hard to find:
Mori NVD 1500
Open to any and all suggestions!
I am currently in the market for a new machine. I would like to go in the direction of Micro Machining because most of the parts I make and quote can fit into less than a 1-2" cube and use tooling that is smaller than 1/16" in diameter. Mostly cutting non-ferrous materials, but I see 303, 304, and 410 SS from time to time (all small parts). Would like to have 3+2 capabilities, but would need at least 3+1. Tolerances I usually work with are +/-.0002" (this is usually only one or two dimensions on a print and are usually less than .1875").
I have looked at the following threads:
Any other good options besides Haas CM1 for micro machining??
Any other options out there you guys know of or have used? The specs on the Haas are literally perfect for me. 20 tools 30K RPM 12" x 10" x 12" 750ipm 5hp Most importantly it's only 60" x 48" so I will be able to fit 3 of them in the shop down the road with a little wiggling and some grease...
www.practicalmachinist.com
Are there any small footprint but rigid CNC machines for prototyping?
Hi, I'm a beginner when it comes to machining and so far I've been working exclusively with manual machines but I'm thinking about prototyping a product. A CNC machine would be great for quick iterations and I also don't want to outsource it because I want to minimize costs and a feedback loop...
www.practicalmachinist.com
It seems like there isn't much information on micro machining on the internet. I'm trying to find someone with some personal experience with any of the machines below.
Here are the machines on my list:
Haas CM-1 - Honestly, I'd buy this machine rather quickly with the TRT70 if I could just see some more YouTube videos of it. I'm also concerned with the accuracy and repeatability of this machine considering Haas' thermal management (which is basically nothing except timers). I haven't really found anything online (except from Haas themselves) about it. This machine is well within budget even with 5-axis.
Datron Neo - I'm actually going to see a demo tomorrow for the Neo. The thing that gives me pause with this machine is that every opinion I've read about it is that it is mostly suitable for plate work. I've heard that it is very rigid and accurate. It's only available with up to 4 axis and I'm not sure if it is "flexible" enough for a job shop. Looking about in the $150k range with the options I'd like. This is doable from a budget standpoint. John Saunders from NYC CNC seemed to like it when he had one on demo. Thermal management is important and I will make sure to ask Datron tomorrow how the Neo deals with it.
Tsugami VA2 - Not much info on this machine is available. Currently awaiting a quote from Morris Group on one of these. Like the Datron, I believe it is only up to 4 axis. Awaiting on confirmation from Morris on that, though. Not sure how Tsugami manages thermals but I'm sure Morris group can give me that answer.
Considering:
Brother S300 - There's lots of information on this machine - just not sure how accurate it is.
Robodrills (Not very familiar with anything FANUC related)
Machines that are most likely out of reach lol:
DMG MORI HSC20
Makino V22
Yasda YMC430
Kern MICRO
Mikron HSM200
Used machines that would be okay, but seem hard to find:
Mori NVD 1500
Open to any and all suggestions!