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Nobody said anything about race.

I said the Police are not required or expected to protect the public. Yet their cars say "Protect and Serve". If they are not actually required to protect us, what do we pay them for?

Cleanup and control. Some of us taxpayers may get benefit and they HAVE saved citizens' lives, but when push comes to shove they are expected to maintain order and protect government and top tier citizens at the expense of the rest of us if necessary.
 
Great but he doesn't run the place. The magical orange moron does.

AND thank the Lord President Trump IS at the helm. You Socialist(S) are trying to destroy America; hopefully you'll fail and POTUS will finish draining the Swamp in his second term.
 
AND thank the Lord President Trump IS at the helm. You Socialist(S) are trying to destroy America; hopefully you'll fail and POTUS will finish draining the Swamp in his second term.
If he drains it much farther you can all start planting banana trees in the back yard ... then Scott's police can protect the worthy, important citizens ...

Work all night on a drink of rum
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)
Stack banana till de morning come
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)

Come mister tally man tally me banana
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)
Come mister tally man tally me banana
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)

Lift six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)
Six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)

Day, me say day o
(Daylight come and me wanna go home)
 
I agree, but when has that stopped the insanity in Congress? In my mind it explains the whole "died from" vs "died with" counting issue, especially when they are counting vehicular accident fatalities.

174 deaths for Friday on Texas covid site, I did not hear of a massive pile-up on I-35, so I'm assuming they were all in hospital, but its all a hoax.............

Arguing numbers is ok if you (not you specifically) don’t just do that to be contrary. Haven’t we all experienced this? No it is right and it is because of this not that and no you are wrong because of this.

Most will be figured out only after the fact and the passage of time.

They had little statistics during the Spanish flu. Numbers settled down later. What a great thing because we do not have to listen to anyone who is untrustworthy rattle on.

Tired of a good bit of the senseless back and forth. If anyone feels the times are dangerous today then follow what you feel, take precautions. Experts are most often overrated or are corrupt able .

Things will run the course. Your Native State will survive as will mine.
 
Yet you seem to have no problem with your fellow lefties hurling 3rd grade insults, liberal hypocrisy at it's finest.

“Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
Hopefully, just annoyed. I don't wish our Confederate lathe hand ill. He's likely pleasant enough in person - not so prone to insult and insult instead of actually addressing the topic at hand.”

Don’t know why you and EG are so silly as to use this rhetoric except that you both have a burn it down “down there” and in fact everywhere. Both of you act like you are without sin. How self righteous of both of you atheists. You are not even a credit to most I have met.

See I have noted that whenever someone moves down here from California (ultra left wing side) and from the Massatusits ilk that y’all are surprised that all of us do just fine without you stirring up down here what you like to stir up at home.

The South “love it or leave it” or better yet save your looting,mobbing, and firebombing at home in the first place it is where you fit in and where y’all should stay.

:popcorn:
 
"protect top tier citizens" ? whooo boy .... this is a little too revealing, perhaps ?

Perhaps not where you live but around here the well-connected get the best service from city hall. Everything from permits to how much priority police will put on minor issues.

Don't get me wrong. Our police are very good and respond quickly but if you have connections at city hall (and some certainly do) they are more likely to have police regularly patrol your street if you have problems, anything form minor vandalism to cars driving too fast.
 
Nobody said anything about race.

I said the Police are not required or expected to protect the public. Yet their cars say "Protect and Serve". If they are not actually required to protect us, what do we pay them for?

“ Nobody said anything about race.”

Anti police-that is your clear point. Don’t call them then don’t ever.

Lol Where are you? Hello?

Goes without saying Teach. The protests are motivated by the belief that Racial injustice has taken place in regard to the trigger event. You may have missed that somehow. In my neighborhood the police have been pretty consistent as they can have attitude to any race. They are in the thick of the kind of breakdown occurring long before this and to say they are all or mostly bad is wrong. Not even most police are white.

At least understand the motivations of all the protests for real.
 
“Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
Hopefully, just annoyed. I don't wish our Confederate lathe hand ill. He's likely pleasant enough in person - not so prone to insult and insult instead of actually addressing the topic at hand.”

Don’t know why you and EG are so silly as to use this rhetoric except that you both have a burn it down “down there” and in fact everywhere. Both of you act like you are without sin. How self righteous of both of you atheists. You are not even a credit to most I have met.

See I have noted that whenever someone moves down here from California (ultra left wing side) and from the Massatusits ilk that y’all are surprised that all of us do just fine without you stirring up down here what you like to stir up at home.

The South “love it or leave it” or better yet save your looting,mobbing, and firebombing at home in the first place it is where you fit in and where y’all should stay.

:popcorn:

Nothing new about the "hate the south" mentality. It existed well before the so-called civil war and was especially prevalent among a group of about two dozen New England “Yankees”. These wealthy and very influential New England abolitionists were financial backers of the maniac terrorist John Brown, whose followers murdered entire families in Kansas. They believed that anyone who disagreed with them was morally depraved, a trait shared by their modern ideological comrades.

Under the influence of these zealots abolitionists who sought the ending of slavery by peaceful means (such as Lysander Spooner) were ignored. The result?

In the South almost 500,000 men were killed, wounded, captured or missing.

In the North almost 600,000 men were killed, wounded, captured or missing.

Many of the wounded suffered their entire lives. Prisoners on both sides suffered horrible conditions. Most of the missing are presumed dead.

The toll on Southern civilians was massive. Houses, barns and crops burned, women raped and livestock stolen.
 
Perhaps not where you live but around here the well-connected get the best service from city hall. Everything from permits to how much priority police will put on minor issues.

Don't get me wrong. Our police are very good and respond quickly but if you have connections at city hall (and some certainly do) they are more likely to have police regularly patrol your street if you have problems, anything form minor vandalism to cars driving too fast.

The Mayor of Chicago and the Governor of Il. who happen to live in downtown Chicago are prime examples. Michigan Ave was looted and burned except for the Hyatt and neither residence was touched. Mean while little people couldn't get anyone to protect them. Their property-businesses were looted, pillaged, and burned.
 
Boggles my mind that people still don't understand how mortality rates work. Mortality rates are based on the number of people that died by the number of people that have contracted said disease. It is not based on the total population. Use the R0 number to show how transmissable it is, and you can extrapolate the number that will die. Are there factors that can swing those numbers up and down? Yes. But mortality rates are not based on total population.
 
Trouble is...as you said previously....when it all looks like shit, it probably is.
Yes, open mind 100%.
But look at the BS. The draconian laws slapped on the UK supposedly written i na fortnight. Total BS. They's been prepared for months and months.
Then look at the double count made up figures. Why do that?
The UK just purchase 65 million vials ready for Sept delivery. So i guess they got plans for "something" going in there.

Sorry - I don't believe a word my gov tells me. It wasn't long ago they were doing germ warfare testing on us - 1950's to '79.
Did lots of it over Camscan and Sami's way for a lot of years :(

Coronavirus: Conspiracy Theories: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - YouTube
 
Motorcycle accidents ruled Covid deaths? In the rush to paint Florida as the epicenter of the “second wave” of the coronavirus outbreak, government officials and their allies in the mainstream media have stooped to ridiculous depths to maximize the death count. A television station this weekend looked into two highly unusual Covid deaths among victims in their 20s, and when they asked about co-morbidities they were told one victim had none, because his Covid death came in the form of a fatal motorcycle accident.

Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. In fact the “spike” that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.

Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a “Covid-19 death” even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.

In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the “spike” in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.

An analysis of reported daily Covid deaths last week compared to actual day-of-death in Houston revealed that the recent “spike” consisted largely of deaths that occurred in April through June. Why delay reporting until now?

We do know that based on this “spike” the Democrat mayor of Houston cancelled the convention of the Texas Republican Party. Mission accomplished?

Doesn’t it seem suspicious that so many states have experienced “delayed” reporting of deaths until Fauci and his gang of “experts” announced that we are in a new nightmare scenario?

Last week in Florida – which is perhaps not coincidentally the location of the Republican Party’s national convention – another scandal emerged when hundreds of Covid test centers reported 100 percent positive results. Obviously this would paint a far grimmer picture of the resurgence of the virus. Orlando Health, for example, reported a positivity rate of 98 percent – a shocking level – but a further investigation revealed a true positivity rate of only 9.4 percent. Those “anomalies” were repeated throughout the state.

“Cases” once meant individuals who displayed sufficient symptoms to be treated in medical facilities. But when the scaremongers needed a “second wave” they began reporting any positive test result as a “Covid case.” No wonder we have a “spike.”

Politics demands that politicians be seen doing “something” rather than nothing, even if that something is more harmful than doing nothing at all. That is why Washington is so addicted to sanctions.

The same has been true especially in Republican-controlled states in the US in response to the coronavirus. Faced with a virus that has killed about one-third as many people as the normal, seasonal flu virus in 2018, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has endorsed a partial shutdown of the economy resulting in millions tossed into the despair of unemployment. Then he arbitrarily shut down bars because massively increased testing showed more people have been exposed to the virus. And he mandated that people wear face masks. Neither shutting down bars (instead of restaurants or Walmarts) nor forcing people to wear masks will have any effect on the progression of the virus through society. But at least he looks like he’s doing “something.”

We are facing the greatest assault on our civil liberties in our lifetimes. The virus is real, but the government reaction is political and totalitarian. As it falls apart, will more Americans start fighting for their liberty?

From here:
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Big Holes in the Covid 'Spike' Narrative
 
Perhaps not where you live but around here the well-connected get the best service from city hall. Everything from permits to how much priority police will put on minor issues.

Don't get me wrong. Our police are very good and respond quickly but if you have connections at city hall (and some certainly do) they are more likely to have police regularly patrol your street if you have problems, anything form minor vandalism to cars driving too fast.

you call that very good?
they should all be fired on the spot.
all men equal etc.
 
Motorcycle accidents ruled Covid deaths? In the rush to paint Florida as the epicenter of the “second wave” of the coronavirus outbreak, government officials and their allies in the mainstream media have stooped to ridiculous depths to maximize the death count. A television station this weekend looked into two highly unusual Covid deaths among victims in their 20s, and when they asked about co-morbidities they were told one victim had none, because his Covid death came in the form of a fatal motorcycle accident.

Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. In fact the “spike” that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.

Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a “Covid-19 death” even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.

In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the “spike” in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.

An analysis of reported daily Covid deaths last week compared to actual day-of-death in Houston revealed that the recent “spike” consisted largely of deaths that occurred in April through June. Why delay reporting until now?

We do know that based on this “spike” the Democrat mayor of Houston cancelled the convention of the Texas Republican Party. Mission accomplished?

Doesn’t it seem suspicious that so many states have experienced “delayed” reporting of deaths until Fauci and his gang of “experts” announced that we are in a new nightmare scenario?

Last week in Florida – which is perhaps not coincidentally the location of the Republican Party’s national convention – another scandal emerged when hundreds of Covid test centers reported 100 percent positive results. Obviously this would paint a far grimmer picture of the resurgence of the virus. Orlando Health, for example, reported a positivity rate of 98 percent – a shocking level – but a further investigation revealed a true positivity rate of only 9.4 percent. Those “anomalies” were repeated throughout the state.

“Cases” once meant individuals who displayed sufficient symptoms to be treated in medical facilities. But when the scaremongers needed a “second wave” they began reporting any positive test result as a “Covid case.” No wonder we have a “spike.”

Politics demands that politicians be seen doing “something” rather than nothing, even if that something is more harmful than doing nothing at all. That is why Washington is so addicted to sanctions.

The same has been true especially in Republican-controlled states in the US in response to the coronavirus. Faced with a virus that has killed about one-third as many people as the normal, seasonal flu virus in 2018, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has endorsed a partial shutdown of the economy resulting in millions tossed into the despair of unemployment. Then he arbitrarily shut down bars because massively increased testing showed more people have been exposed to the virus. And he mandated that people wear face masks. Neither shutting down bars (instead of restaurants or Walmarts) nor forcing people to wear masks will have any effect on the progression of the virus through society. But at least he looks like he’s doing “something.”

We are facing the greatest assault on our civil liberties in our lifetimes. The virus is real, but the government reaction is political and totalitarian. As it falls apart, will more Americans start fighting for their liberty?

From here:
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Big Holes in the Covid 'Spike' Narrative

who killed JFK?
was 9/11 an inside job?
Coronavirus: Conspiracy Theories: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - YouTube
 
So obviously you think I'm a crank?
That's fine, your prerogative.

#1 This is the purchase order for the 65 million vials for the Covid vaccination plan
BD Receives Order from U.K. Government for 65 Million Injection Devices to Support COVID-19 Vaccination Campaign

so?
the government has made public the desire to vaccinate and thus buys stuff to be able to do so.


#2 Gov germ warfare testing on the great unwashed (public)
How the British Government subjected thousands of people to chemical and biological warfare trials during Cold War | The Independent
Millions were in germ war tests | Politics | The Guardian

and what has this to do with covid19?

#3 Coronavirus law - all 359 pages etc.
Not really created in a fortnight by the civil service working hard was it?
Bill documents — Coronavirus Act 2020 — UK Parliament

an impressive achievement, that i doubt has been done in a fortnight.
if it actually was done in a fortnight that will soon become clear as the first real scrutiny will undoubtedly reveal a myriad of flaws in the bill.
but maybe, just maybe, all they more or less had to do, was take the draft out of the drawer, bring it up to date and replace sars cov with sars cov 2.

 








 
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