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OT - opening up as best we can. AKA - is it still just the seasonal flu?

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CalG

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Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something. Having the RIGHT to do something doesn't mean it a wise thing to do that thing. You have the right to free speech, but it might not be the smartest thing to shoot your mouth off in a biker bar.

Ok, You haven't been assaulted by someone who would do you harm . I hope that continues for you.

Be sure to mask up when out doors in public. You wouldn't want to get on anyone's bad side.

You do know it is a federal offense for a CC to wear a mask... 'careful who you challenge!
 

theperfessor

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Actually I have been assaulted but not with a firearm. But I'm 6'5" and have taken enough classes in various martial arts to at least defend myself from one assailant. In my case it wasn't a serious attempt to do me harm, it was a mouthy drunk in an otherwise quiet little bar. I just kept backing up and dodging until the bartender took care of things. When you're the biggest guy in a bar every drunk with beer muscles wants to take you on. One reason I quit drinking and don't go to bars.

I have been wearing a mask in public for quite a few weeks now, just like I wear safety glasses in the shop and a seat belt in my vehicles. Not a big deal once I found a comfy one. Been thinking about getting a couple with our business name on it, free advertising!
 

EmGo

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Is that why 4 officers involved with the Floyd death are under indictment for murder and manslaughter?
They were charged with crimes after the entire united States blew up in a rage, and even white people joined in. This was the only reason.

If they had been charged right after the crime, none of this would have happened. If you could read, you could look up the history.

The times they are a'changin' ... we hope.
 
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Interesting fact about Pompeo visiting Denmark yesterday (Wednesday). The usual will take it as me criticizing the USA but the intention is more to help understand how we think differently. What I describe with Pompeo is probably "standard procedure" in the USA. I remember the escort Trump had when he walkied to a church to hold a bible. Our newspapers main interest would be how much something like that cost the taxpayers :)

To attend the meeting Pompeo had an escort of 10 motorbikes (police) and 10 black vehicles. Behind him were 2 motorbikes and 4 more black vehcles.

The Danish ministers who attended the meeting had no escort for their cars and in fact 2 of them just walked to the foreign ministry.

I'm not saying living here is better but certainly usually more relaxed. Depends on what is preferred. I'm also not saying protecton is never necessary here but it very much depends on the situation and isn't common.
 

EmGo

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Sure thing Xi.
Mr Xi could care less. I was the one who went through the South, saw your vicious practices up-close and personal, heard Strom Thurmond and George Wallace and read Richard Reid's disgusting, frothing spew of slime.

States' rights my ass. The war was about the right to "own" niggers.

You stupid shitforbrains imbeciles couldn't learn to add two and two if we beat it into your heads with a 4x4. All you know is hate. Fucking worthless losers.

 

Trueturning

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The Portland protestors have rights too but it doesn't seem as if the federal government respects them. And I see a big difference between unarmed protestors and armed militia groups.

Is it just that you fear militia groups because they flaunt their right to bear arms and to form a militia? Consider too what factual reason would you have to prove they are a danger to anyone? In these times and in past times there have always been groups that formed for the public good. This happens all over the world. Often our government can not protect us well and then our effort to protect and defend fall upon us. It is our duty in the eyes of God. Even now crime is up and the police are stretched and degraded by politics. They incline to back off their duties.

Too bad for us because it works pretty well otherwise. Problems yes accountability when they do wrong - no. Some things have to be equal law enforcement to citizens.

People who bear arms as they have the right are not dangerous. Sure it is hyped that way yet the ones who commit murder with them are exceptions. No one wants someone like that to be able of having a firearm. Ban them all and we have major problems.
 

Demon69

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If a bunch of Black citizens with guns acted like those Michigan morons they would get gassed, shot, or beaten. Because it is a bunch of unwashed white people nothing happened to them.

I'm embarassed to be a gun owner when I see that kind of mass idiocy.

Theres black citizens out there with guns, just doent get the same coverage, so it doesnt exist for some.

 

Demon69

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I have been wearing a mask in public for quite a few weeks now, just like I wear safety glasses in the shop and a seat belt in my vehicles. Not a big deal once I found a comfy one. Been thinking about getting a couple with our business name on it, free advertising!

What sort of mask you wearing out of interest? Im gathering a few types to do some chuff testing.

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Did not hear any of this from you when the open up Michigan gang was running around with weapons.

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Right wing protestors are few in number compared to lefties and while they look down right ridiculous dressed like G.I. Joe they usually don't violate any laws unless they are engaged by counter protestors. I don't see them trespassing through gated communities, blocking highways and vandalizing. Pretty weak argument bringing them up.
 
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For example:
If you were on a jury, and a police officer was on trial for shooting an unarmed woman at a protest, how would you vote ?

Now, if you find the rest of the story, being the woman was holding a lit molatov cocktail, and was reaching back to throw it into a school bus loaded with little children, and the cop shot her then ?
She drops the firebomb, collapses into it and dies.

she did not commit a crime, but was about to.

How doo you vote ?

And the headlines would read "Cop Kills Unarmed Women". Funny how they call someone ramming cars and trying to run people over in a stolen car, "unarmed."
 
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The Portland protestors have rights too but it doesn't seem as if the federal government respects them. And I see a big difference between unarmed protestors and armed militia groups.

Are you ignoring all the vandalism they cause?
 

ChipSplitter

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Is there anyone that likes to beat up people and shoot them?
Reality check, if there are some what career would they gravitate to?
Bob


My point was, all the people here screaming and having a fit about police brutality, etc., etc. have yet to find anyone that supports it.

It's a straw-man argument. There is no one here like that.

If there is, show me- I bet they're not a machinist....:D
 

ChipSplitter

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You ignorant worthless asshole. There's been fifty to a hundred posts at least excusing it right here. Are you blind as well as stupid ?


Everyone I saw* was questioning whether or not the evidence was skewed or they were framed, not trying to defend brutality.

Who would want to defend police brutality? You might have a black officer beat you up someday........(it happens, too)

I know you'd rather believe we're Nazi's, but that doesn't make it true.

Does China not have police? What about Tienanmen Square? Was that not brutality?


*I don't police this forum like you do so I might have missed it.....:crazy:

ETA:
Man Mr. Pooh, you sure are angry and hate filled.


Must be his "other handler" took over this morning. Some days he's nice as a kitten, today is not one of them.
 

tim9lives

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions:

C&P

A $52 million coronavirus hospital once billed as “crucial” by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio served a total of 79 patients before closing May 13.
An exposé by The New York Times details the bureaucratic debacle that unfolded after the temporary hospital was rushed into existence at Billie Jean King National Tennis Center.

The piece by Michael Rothfeld, Robin Stein, and Susan C. Beachy covered “missteps made at every level of government” soon after the hospital’s April 10 opening.
“I basically got paid $2,000 a day to sit on my phone and look at Facebook,” a nurse practitioner told the newspaper. “We all felt guilty. I felt really ashamed, to be honest.”
“Knowing what our patients had to endure in an overcrowded emergency department, it’s frustrating how few patients were treated at facilities such as Billie Jean King,” added Dr. Timothy Tan, the director of clinical operations at the Queens Hospital Center emergency department.
In March, however, Mr. de Blasio assured the city that the facility was an essential part of the “war effort” against coronavirus.
“This facility will be crucial,” he said.
Jackie Bray, an aide to the mayor, told the newspaper that it was determined that patients would receive better care at established — but crowded — hospitals.
“The alternative space was less used than we expected it to be because we broke the curve, thank goodness,” she added.

ignorance is bliss.

Cal....one could then use your same argument that every penny ever spent building nuclear weapons is also money wasted since we haven’t used an atomic bomb since 1945. And the Hydrogen bomb has never been used.

Sometimes good government is spending money on things which we hope are never needed. I could sit and think about this....and come up with hundreds of examples. But I’d rather read some other posts. And hopefully I don’t need to give you examples of government money spent on items never used which is still money well spent. Over haOf of the military budget is probably money spent on things which never get used.
 

Mcgyver

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You ignorant worthless asshole. There's been fifty to a hundred posts at least excusing it right here. Are you blind as well as stupid ?


geez EG, tone it down....its just a discussion and imo a reasonable point ....the hysterics diminish your points. No one is for the brutality, except the for very small percentage of the population (police and general) doing it. I see everyone else is opposed to it.
 
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