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Joe Michaels

Diamond
Joined
Apr 3, 2004
Location
Shandaken, NY, USA
Dalmatiangirl:

It's New Years eve, and I found myself wondering if you were going to go to the McGill Club for a New Year's Eve drink. Then, the realities of the Covid-19 pandemic returned to my mind, so I imagine the McGill Club (or going out to celebrate the New Year) is not on yours or too many other people's agendas.

Your photos show a classic old bar, what I call a "real bar"- not some attempt to re-create an old classic. It's a "real bar" where if you asked for a boilermaker, I am sure the bartender would know what you were asking for. No drinks with parasols and trendy names made from enough sweet stuff to disguise the hooch. A place where there are likely jars of pickled pig's feet, pickled ham hocks, pickled hard boiled eggs, and similar snacks on the back bar along with the usual array of bottles. No white wine, no chamber music softly playing, no 'finger foods' with names no one can pronounce. Music comes out of the juke box and is whatever the patrons care to hear rather than soft chamber music, and food can be whatever is in the jars on the back bar, or perhaps something from the kitchen like wings or southwestern type foods.

Classic old bars like the McGill Club are getting fewer as younger generations gravitate to 'clubs' or franchised type restaurants and bars. I wonder at the name of the bar "McGill Club". Does Nevada have a 'club' law like Texas ? Years ago, I was on a job in Wichita Falls, TX. I was in a restaurant and wanted a beer with my supper. The manager came over, introduced herself and explained the "club law". Selling drinks over the bar to anyone who walked in was apparently illegal. Selling drinks to members of a club was not. So, for two bucks, I became a 'club member' and was given a 'club card' to be produced on demand if asked by law enforcement. Of course, the club card had some provision for punching or stamping anytime I had a drink, with a free round for every so many drinks. Seemed kind of transparent or silly to me to enact a 'club law', but I wonder if the McGill Club is a 'club" in that sense of things.

The other thing that has me wondering is the name 'Cyprus Hall' on the second story of the McGill Club's building. Was there a fraternal organization or similar group made up of immigrants from Cyprus (Cypriots) amongst the population of miners in that region ? In many mill and mining towns, there were 'halls' where immigrant groups met for social functions as well as for mutual benevolent societies (insurance, aid to widows and orphans, helping new 'greenhorns' get a start in the new world...).

In any event, I want to wish you and everyone on this 'board a HEALTHY as well happy and prosperous New Year. We have our pickled herring and whisky all ready to welcome in the New Year as is our custom. I've got the Lunkenheimer steam whistle rigged on its pipe mast (1" pipe) 20 feet above ground level outside the garage, hooked up to the shop air receiver with jackhammer hose. I've also got my old Ithaca Model 37 shotgun and a couple of shells for it. Come midnight, I play a tune on the whistle, quilling it and making it sob and yip, and blast off a couple of rounds at the moon. The colder the weather, the better the echo of the whistle up and down our valley. Friends 2 miles away hear the whistle each New Years. Last New Years, we were outside the house blowing the whistle having discharged the shotgun, when we heard the whoop of a police siren. It was a town police officer, about 1/4 mile away. He got on his loud hailer and yelled out a New Year's greeting. We have some new neighbors about 50 feet below our house in elevation and maybe 1000 feet away. They are likely 'Covid refugees', up from NY City judging by the constant parade of contractors who have been working on their house. Real estate prices in our area have taken off astronomically, and anything that is saleable, or is at least a buildable lot (meeting local zoning ordinances and NYC watershed codes for septic systems) is fetching prices no one ever dreamed of. The area is over run with people up from NYC, and our new neighbors are in for a shock come midnight when we cut loose up at our house. If they think they will get any sympathy from the local gendarmerie, they have another guess coming.

After the 'concert', we come back into the house, kiss each other and have a shot or two of neat whisky and some herring and bread. No prolonged partying, no champagne, just wish each other a heartfelt good year and then go to sleep.

Were you geographically closer, I am sure we'd find a 'real bar' to meet at and have a few while finding commonalities and trading stories and ideas. For the near term, again, all the best for the New Year.
 

jermfab

Cast Iron
Joined
Jul 25, 2013
Location
atlanta, ga
You know how much a lista weighs? How about 30 of them down each side of the trailer?!

I’ll see your race trailer and raise you by any motion picture rigging electric truck or special effects truck. Miles and miles of heavy gauge copper cable on the rigging juicer truck and similar rows of Lista or comparable on the FX trailer. FX guys don’t spend extra on-AN fittings and most race cars don’t have a need for 2 1/2” brass firehose fittings. Movie trailers survive because they rarely cross a scale, but I have a friend who muscled a small-table Bridgeport into the back of his 1/2-ton pick up at a weigh station. If memory serves this was AFTER having to shift the axles.
There’s not a movie truck out there as clean as a top-level race rig, but both will surely have the jockey boxes and a lift gate. The lack of oversight on motion picture trucks allows some egregious stuff. State and federal DOT can only catch so much. And it makes the most sense to catch offenders by forcing them over a set of scales. I certainly have no first hand knowledge of ANY trailer going down the road with an acetylene tank (likely connected to a regulator and hose AND oxygen tank), maybe a few feet of primer cord and the dets to start it, no placard, not worries. Cinematic immunity.
To the original point, from someone who gets paid to set stuff on fire, EVERYTHING burns eventually. It never ceases to amaze me how spectacular an unattended vehicle fire is. Plastic bags in a 53’ trailer?!? Add hot brakes, wheel grease and road grime and it will flash faster than you’d expect. Take it somewhere OTHER than the main drag and watch it burn. The driver should have known better.
I’ve never burned a semi-trailer, but I’ve set a bunch of cars on fire. Enough that I know I’ll find some magnesium somewhere in there. Enough to know there’s a point where I cannot turn off the fire and the best thing to do is back off, don’t breathe the smoke and enjoy the show. The door seals on older Mercedes are really good and they must have made every motor housing from magnesium. I stuck a firehose in an early nineties S-class and literally filled the car with water. The seat motors were still burning. Something in the steering column was as well and eventually the sunroof drive caught too.

Not a contest, just anecdotal, these threads are some of my favorite on the forum.

Happy 2021 and FUCK2020.






Be safe and stay healthy




Jeremy
 
Joined
Nov 19, 2007
Location
marysville ohio
I’ll see your race trailer and raise you by any motion picture rigging electric truck or special effects truck. Miles and miles of heavy gauge copper cable on the rigging juicer truck and similar rows of Lista or comparable on the FX trailer. FX guys don’t spend extra on-AN fittings and most race cars don’t have a need for 2 1/2” brass firehose fittings. Movie trailers survive because they rarely cross a scale, but I have a friend who muscled a small-table Bridgeport into the back of his 1/2-ton pick up at a weigh station. If memory serves this was AFTER having to shift the axles.
There’s not a movie truck out there as clean as a top-level race rig, but both will surely have the jockey boxes and a lift gate. The lack of oversight on motion picture trucks allows some egregious stuff. State and federal DOT can only catch so much. And it makes the most sense to catch offenders by forcing them over a set of scales. I certainly have no first hand knowledge of ANY trailer going down the road with an acetylene tank (likely connected to a regulator and hose AND oxygen tank), maybe a few feet of primer cord and the dets to start it, no placard, not worries. Cinematic immunity.
To the original point, from someone who gets paid to set stuff on fire, EVERYTHING burns eventually. It never ceases to amaze me how spectacular an unattended vehicle fire is. Plastic bags in a 53’ trailer?!? Add hot brakes, wheel grease and road grime and it will flash faster than you’d expect. Take it somewhere OTHER than the main drag and watch it burn. The driver should have known better.
I’ve never burned a semi-trailer, but I’ve set a bunch of cars on fire. Enough that I know I’ll find some magnesium somewhere in there. Enough to know there’s a point where I cannot turn off the fire and the best thing to do is back off, don’t breathe the smoke and enjoy the show. The door seals on older Mercedes are really good and they must have made every motor housing from magnesium. I stuck a firehose in an early nineties S-class and literally filled the car with water. The seat motors were still burning. Something in the steering column was as well and eventually the sunroof drive caught too.

Not a contest, just anecdotal, these threads are some of my favorite on the forum.

Happy 2021 and FUCK2020.






Be safe and stay healthy




Jeremy

Hollywood folks can get away with anything, the scale bosses love messing with race teams.
 

duckfarmer27

Stainless
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Location
Upstate NY
Your photos show a classic old bar, what I call a "real bar"- not some attempt to re-create an old classic. It's a "real bar" where if you asked for a boilermaker, I am sure the bartender would know what you were asking for.

I've got the Lunkenheimer steam whistle rigged on its pipe mast (1" pipe) 20 feet above ground level outside the garage, hooked up to the shop air receiver with jackhammer hose. I've also got my old Ithaca Model 37 shotgun and a couple of shells for it.

Joe -

If you ever get down this way there is a bar like you are describing in Sayre, PA. Old railroad hotel that is on the other side of the tracks from the old Lehigh passenger station. It has been owned by the same family since the 1930s as an Italian restaurant - excellent food. Back bar is very similar to the picture Dalmatiangirl posted and I'm guessing about the same vintage. Same room as the bar has 8 or 9 booths, which is where my wife and I and our friends always sit. If you removed the tv screen and the picture of JFK and Harry Truman but left up the one of FDR you could shoot a 1930s movie there with minimal problems.

Wife and I are just not night owls. Lasted until about 11:30. Then I woke up suddenly a minute or two after midnight. Must have been you doing all that carousing and the noise carried over a few counties. I was too lazy to get up and give a couple answering shots.

Happy New Year.

Dale
 

JST

Diamond
Joined
Jun 16, 2001
Location
St Louis
The folks in the next town north were surely shooting a lot last night. I heard every sort of caliber of small arms and some bursts of full and semi automatic fire, smaller caliber and some largish. And of course fireworks.

Sounds like everyone was blowing off accumulated tensions from the past year.

I need to look around to see if any of the "accumulated tensions" of the copper jacketed type landed near the house. It has happened.
 

jermfab

Cast Iron
Joined
Jul 25, 2013
Location
atlanta, ga
Hollywood folks can get away with anything, the scale bosses love messing with race teams.

Cinematic Immunity.

Typically movie trailers are a bit more nondescript as well, aside from the lift gate and belly boxes. No graphics package to upset a rival-team’s fan. For movie types, people tend to get caught up in the glitz and glamor and let things slide. And again, our trucks don’t cross the scales nearly as often.

To the New Years gunfire, last roof-patch I made looked to be about a .40-cal. Mostly confirmed when I found the slug a couple weeks later. It’s a bit smushed, but looks too small for .45. At my first job, the bi-annual roof maintenance (mid-July and mid-January) was patching bullet holes and hoping to add a new caliber to the bosses collection. He kept his collection on display, pistol: little to big and rifle: little to big on his desk... it was extensive.

I’m glad that none of them found anyone’s skull. Roofs can be patched.



Be safe and stay healthy





Jeremy
 

duckfarmer27

Stainless
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Location
Upstate NY
Are you talking about Mangialardo's on South Thomas Ave.?

SIP -

I know a guy in Albany,NY who when he found out where I lived immediately brought up 'Mangies' as we locals call it. That surprised me. Did not know that even in MI people might know of it. LOL

Dale
 

SIP6A

Titanium
Joined
May 29, 2003
Location
Temperance, Michigan
SIP -

I know a guy in Albany,NY who when he found out where I lived immediately brought up 'Mangies' as we locals call it. That surprised me. Did not know that even in MI people might know of it. LOL

Dale

Well, you did tell me where it was at.

in Sayre, PA. Old railroad hotel that is on the other side of the tracks from the old Lehigh passenger station.

Google maps is a wonderful resource.

When I travel I like to stop at places like this to eat rather than fast food or a chain. I have a whole list of places like this on 3 x 5" cards that I go through before a trip. Next trip east I will make a point of stopping here.

Thanks!
Todd
 
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duckfarmer27

Stainless
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Location
Upstate NY
Todd -

Ha - I did not even think about how I gave the place up that easy. And I like the way you think - my wife and I try to hit local places when traveling for the same reasons you mentioned - and hopefully we can do some by this coming summer.

Hope you like the place - we do. They are closed Sundays - in fact the napkins still have - I think - the 'since' date and 'never on Sunday' on them. Sit in the bar, you'll quickly get a flavor of this area.

If for any reason they are not open - on the other side of the tracks to the South of the bridge on Desmond St is Yanuzzi's - another great place. I happen to like Mangie's sauce just a bit better, but either is a great local place, long time family places. And probably half the area would disagree with me on the sauce, just personal preference. At Mangie's you get great garlic pizza in the bread basket - Yanuzzi's it is garlic bread.

Dale
 








 
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