tubeandplate
Aluminum
- Joined
- Sep 18, 2007
- Location
- Springfield, TN
I have been on the forum for I think over 3 years....I've searched and read about paint scattered hither and yon here on the forum.
Possibly this could be a good subject for a sticky....it would be nice to have one thread prominently available to all and easily found that would be a clearing house of experiences and info on this subject....or at least I think so.
I am going to spend my "spare time" this winter tearing down, refurbishing, and cosmetically restoring a couple of lathes....may last longer than this winter, but at least my plans are to start on them.....the first 2 aren't operational at the moment anyway.....
Before I get the electrolysis tank set up (one machine is half way apart, one other will be soon after I pick it up in a few weeks), I wanted to start a thread soliciting experiences and thoughts on paints...the actual materials.
Meaning, brands, types, primers, etc...and what materials are best for cast iron and steel in "fluxuating temperature" environments that involve exposure to abrasion (metal swarf) and oil and solvents.
I am not new to painting and materials, but if I'm going to the trouble of disassembly and painting after rust removal, I don't want to have to think the paint itself won't last and be a reason for a future teardown too soon....
I have read in the Monarch department and others about folks using cyano/super glue type paint materials.....
I know a few things about Imron and other 2 part aviation paints...epoxy coatings, etc...
I like the idea of a one part "tractor" paint for easy of use/cleanup/fumes...AND "touchup-ability" in the future.
Pat Black and others in this department have used Tractor Supply synthetic enamels....that look GREAT. Seems to me this kind of paint would touch up easier and be more flexible in temp changes than the epoxies and cyanos...??
I guess my querry is motivated mostly by my desires...a good lasting paint that will stand up to machine tool use that is a one part product that is relatively easily available off the shelf and not terribly expensive.
One motivation for starting this thread is that in searching this forum for this subject, I ran across one individual who posted that he went to all the trouble of disassembly/clean up/paint/reassembly, only to find mediocre results....to which, upon his return to the paint supplier to query about this was told "oh yeah, you SHOULD have used our higher end line for that purpose"......
Yikes.....
I'd sure like to avoid that situation in my upcoming endeavors....
SO.....
Not being interested in an 2 part or cyano based "space age" (ie expensive and tedious to use) product.....
Will anyone care to comment, share their stories, and/or their experiences with different materials for paints and primers in the one part reasonably priced categories for me?????
I intend to use Eastwood's self etching auto primer as a first coat...possibly followed by another primer if topcoat compatibility is an issue, and a one part oil based enamel....urethane, synthectic, whatever....
I will be using Penetrol and a brushes....and bondo/glazing where necessary.
...at least this is my plan until I get better advice or suggestions.
I guess the most coveted posts I'm after are from folks who are able to tell me whether a reasonably priced off the shelf "tractor" type paint that they have used has proved to hold up well over some (?) time, and/or any problems or objections someone has had with a similar product currenlty available.
My gut feeling tells me that a mid to high quality paint that is INTENDED to be used on farm equipment and tractors SHOULD be an excellent choice for a big old lathe.......
So...one burning question...are the Tractor Supply Co. (TSC) off the shelf paints worthy for the task, and would they offer durability/longevity and a decent price???
A southeastern paint supplier I have a lot of experience with, albeit small metal and house type use, is Porter Paints, now owned by PPG, who also owns Ditzler. Their (Porter) products are excellent, but not sure that the off the shelf/non-order products are up to the machine tool useage....
Anyone????
Don't be shy, and thanks.....
John Oder....I know you have been painting some machines over the last year or so....????? What are you using?????
Chris
Possibly this could be a good subject for a sticky....it would be nice to have one thread prominently available to all and easily found that would be a clearing house of experiences and info on this subject....or at least I think so.
I am going to spend my "spare time" this winter tearing down, refurbishing, and cosmetically restoring a couple of lathes....may last longer than this winter, but at least my plans are to start on them.....the first 2 aren't operational at the moment anyway.....
Before I get the electrolysis tank set up (one machine is half way apart, one other will be soon after I pick it up in a few weeks), I wanted to start a thread soliciting experiences and thoughts on paints...the actual materials.
Meaning, brands, types, primers, etc...and what materials are best for cast iron and steel in "fluxuating temperature" environments that involve exposure to abrasion (metal swarf) and oil and solvents.
I am not new to painting and materials, but if I'm going to the trouble of disassembly and painting after rust removal, I don't want to have to think the paint itself won't last and be a reason for a future teardown too soon....
I have read in the Monarch department and others about folks using cyano/super glue type paint materials.....
I know a few things about Imron and other 2 part aviation paints...epoxy coatings, etc...
I like the idea of a one part "tractor" paint for easy of use/cleanup/fumes...AND "touchup-ability" in the future.
Pat Black and others in this department have used Tractor Supply synthetic enamels....that look GREAT. Seems to me this kind of paint would touch up easier and be more flexible in temp changes than the epoxies and cyanos...??
I guess my querry is motivated mostly by my desires...a good lasting paint that will stand up to machine tool use that is a one part product that is relatively easily available off the shelf and not terribly expensive.
One motivation for starting this thread is that in searching this forum for this subject, I ran across one individual who posted that he went to all the trouble of disassembly/clean up/paint/reassembly, only to find mediocre results....to which, upon his return to the paint supplier to query about this was told "oh yeah, you SHOULD have used our higher end line for that purpose"......
Yikes.....
I'd sure like to avoid that situation in my upcoming endeavors....
SO.....
Not being interested in an 2 part or cyano based "space age" (ie expensive and tedious to use) product.....
Will anyone care to comment, share their stories, and/or their experiences with different materials for paints and primers in the one part reasonably priced categories for me?????
I intend to use Eastwood's self etching auto primer as a first coat...possibly followed by another primer if topcoat compatibility is an issue, and a one part oil based enamel....urethane, synthectic, whatever....
I will be using Penetrol and a brushes....and bondo/glazing where necessary.
...at least this is my plan until I get better advice or suggestions.
I guess the most coveted posts I'm after are from folks who are able to tell me whether a reasonably priced off the shelf "tractor" type paint that they have used has proved to hold up well over some (?) time, and/or any problems or objections someone has had with a similar product currenlty available.
My gut feeling tells me that a mid to high quality paint that is INTENDED to be used on farm equipment and tractors SHOULD be an excellent choice for a big old lathe.......
So...one burning question...are the Tractor Supply Co. (TSC) off the shelf paints worthy for the task, and would they offer durability/longevity and a decent price???
A southeastern paint supplier I have a lot of experience with, albeit small metal and house type use, is Porter Paints, now owned by PPG, who also owns Ditzler. Their (Porter) products are excellent, but not sure that the off the shelf/non-order products are up to the machine tool useage....
Anyone????
Don't be shy, and thanks.....
John Oder....I know you have been painting some machines over the last year or so....????? What are you using?????
Chris