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EPAIII said:
So the weight on the left is rising, against gravity, as it's spoke moves from the 6 o-clock position to the 9 o-clock position. Something must be pulling it up. And that takes energy/work.

You claim that the weights are in the same position when the wheel stops as when it started. These two states are 1/4 revolution apart. So, if it started to rotate at the beginning of the video, WHY does it stop at the end. If the weights are in the same position and they are the same weight, then it should continue rotating.

But it doesn't. So, what is different? Something must be.
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The line that is attached to both the disc and the weight does not release. I could've allowed for that but decided to start on a new build.
 
EPAIII said:
So the weight on the left is rising, against gravity, as it's spoke moves from the 6 o-clock position to the 9 o-clock position. Something must be pulling it up. And that takes energy/work.

You claim that the weights are in the same position when the wheel stops as when it started. These two states are 1/4 revolution apart. So, if it started to rotate at the beginning of the video, WHY does it stop at the end. If the weights are in the same position and they are the same weight, then it should continue rotating.

But it doesn't. So, what is different? Something must be.
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seems that tubes with marbles would work much the same
*I dont think it could be so easy
 
Clim said:
I am curious. When I worked at Boeing, I took off hour classes at Renton Voc Tech. Have any of you
ever used the 3 wire measurement when chasing threads? If you know, there's an actual formula for
measuring the pitch and angles of threads. And it takes 3 wires placed in the threads and that value has
a specific value.
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Well, that's pretty special. In a 'short bus' kind of way.

Come back and brag up your mad skills when you can sit down with a pencil and paper, and calculate out the trig needed to get there.

Three wire threads is a pretty normal thing to learn, as a beginning machinist. Pee Dee sells sets of thread wires and includes a chart and the formula to use, but you can use about anything round, as long as you can do the trig and the round objects will fit between the threads, rather than on top of them.

Congrats, dude, you know what my half trained apprentices learned on their second or third day in the shop! LOL!
 
thermite said:
My bad.

Must have missed the part in Vampire training skewl where they are taught not to play with their food.

Didn't realize we were meant to eat damned fools all at once.

If we can't play wit' 'is head, do we get air-miles instead?
How about a grog ration?

Too old for porno flicks..
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I'm pretty sure you are the only one here that can effectively communicate with him:scratchchin:
 
trevj said:
Well, that's pretty special. In a 'short bus' kind of way.

Come back and brag up your mad skills when you can sit down with a pencil and paper, and calculate out the trig needed to get there.

Three wire threads is a pretty normal thing to learn, as a beginning machinist. Pee Dee sells sets of thread wires and includes a chart and the formula to use, but you can use about anything round, as long as you can do the trig and the round objects will fit between the threads, rather than on top of them.

Congrats, dude, you know what my half trained apprentices learned on their second or third day in the shop! LOL!
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That's okay. I use a lot of trig and analytical trigonometry. With me, I've rebushed bearings, overhauled generators and steam turbine housings, etc.
I do use some calculus but that gets more into Boltzmann's Ideal Gas Law. And if this build works like it should then I'd be proving that gravity has energy.
Scientists debate that. With my video, it shows that gravity performs work. That's not supposed to happen.
And as to my build, it might be Wednesday before it's on its stand. It's actually a lot of work and once on its stand then it's close to being finished.
And trevj, when I took shop classes, it was probably before 1990. That was over 30 years ago. With me, I could get creative having both a machine shop and wood shop at home. As for what I am pursuing now, I'm not mentioning that because it has nothing to do with machining or fabrication. With Bessler's Wheel, what I learned in school and working in machine shops allowed me to consider how to build it. It actually goes better for me when I can work in a way that I've done before.
With my Father, he made the first hydraulic actuators for the Boeing 747. He told me that because it has no lock out device that one aileron extended and
caused it to do 7 barrel rolls over Lake Washington before the pilots got it under control. They had to extend all ailerons so that hydraulic pressure allowed
them to have control of the aircraft. He also made the next hydraulic actuators and told me they had a 0.0005 tolerance. Hydraulic fluid can't pass through
such a narrow passage and it needs no seals. Yes there is some leakage which allows for lubrication but it's an insignificant amount.
 
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Just an FYI, this video is a "short" and automatically repeats. Perpetual motion is impossible because gravity has no energy.
As a result, the weight rotating upward should slow and stop short of 90º of rotation. This does not happen. The weight rotating
upwards is going faster than what science allows for.
 
jim rozen said:
"Perpetual motion is impossible because gravity has no energy."

There's all KINDS of things wrong with your crap.
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This build will determine that. With the Wright Bros., if God had wanted man to fly he would've given us wings. The guy who designed
the rail yards for the city of Chicago said that he was afflicted with the belief that powered flight was possible. Me and my brothers spent
a lot of time at Carillon Park. I learned about what the Wright Bros. went through. Why I don't take things personally.
When my Father was working at Boeing in their R&D department I also read a biography about Einstein. His father and uncle were interested
in something called electricity and dynos (generators). Where do those electrons come from that are electricity?
Are you aware that it is vacuum above a wing that creates lift? There has to be some pressure underneath it otherwise airflow would cancel
itself out and flight wouldn't happen. As someone mentioned, the Wright Bros. realized that the propeller acted like a wing. When it creates a
vacuum in front of itself, does that increase the efficiency of the thrust it generates? It'd be the same for a gas turbine.

Aviation - Octave Chanute, The Chiago Connection and Birth of Aviation

www.lib.niu.edu

With Carillon Park, besides a steam powered machine shop, they had a replica Wright Bros. airplane with some original parts, log cabins from
before America was a country and basically showed how the U.S. went from settlers to the modern country it has become. Most Americans are
not aware of "real" American history.
 
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atex57 said:
Can someone set up a calendar so we can poke him for updates every now and then?

Somehow this one hasn't lost his enthusiasm and keeps his delusions.

Ed.
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Comes down to whether even he BELIEVES himself, actually.

These types of babbling doubletalk entities are usually just trolling for more gullible fools than themselves.

Criminals KNOW that, always.

Nutters know it, never.

That's how one sorts them...
 
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thermite said:
Comes down to whether even he BELIEVES himself, actually.

These types of babbling doubletalk entities are usually just trolling for more gullible fools than themselves.

Criminals KNOW that, always.

Nutters know it, never.

That's how one sorts them...
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As I have mentioned, this build will tell. I have actual work that I have shown. And in the next week it will probably
be finished. Is it too much to ask for a little patience to see if years of research has allowed me to understand something?

An FYI, at 61 I have been kept from having a family in the U.S. As a disabled Veteran I do not have that right in the U.S.
 
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thermite said:
When your alleged "research" is but the double-speak of yet-another feather-merchant's masturbatory intellectual incest?

Surely, it is 'too much to ask"!
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Actual work is not alleged. Snakk Englesk? OMG, you're talking about my American mother from Kentucky, right?
Hillbillies married their cousins. This explains everything.
In reality, on my mother's side, Scottish heritage and that of Pocahontas. A guy from Scotland (Dr. William Gay) married one of her descendants
and they had kids. Saying incest because my mother was an American hillbilly is pushing stereotypes to the extreme. Still, there is no Powhatan
tribe today. They simply weren't the "right" people.

If my work is successful and I'm not talking about this, I could be recognized as a Native American and because I am descended from
Chief Wahunsenacawh, it is possible I might be recognized by what Powhatans are left as Chief Wahunsenacawh.
On a personal level, that kind of overshadows everything else.
Hopefully you understand that my Father ran from Nazis for his life. They caught his friend who died in a Nazi camp. I'm not Jewish.
And yet there is no Powhatan tribe today. Bad things happen. Could you imagine bringing a dead tribe back to life? That doesn't happen.

p.s., my mother is from Amerika and my Father from Norway and you say incest? Kind of why I hope to move out of the U.S.
 
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Thanks for you recitation of almost the entirety of the Encyclopedia For Kids!

But, spouting irrelevant factoids, one after another, still does not make you sound like you know or understand what you are going on about.

Doesn't all this cut in to your building time? Finish your project, then get back to us with a set of plans that others can use to duplicate the feat. It only counts as an accomplishment, if the results are reproducible!


Clim said:
This build will determine that. With the Wright Bros., if God had wanted man to fly he would've given us wings. The guy who designed
the rail yards for the city of Chicago said that he was afflicted with the belief that powered flight was possible. Me and my brothers spent
a lot of time at Carillon Park. I learned about what the Wright Bros. went through. Why I don't take things personally.
When my Father was working at Boeing in their R&D department I also read a biography about Einstein. His father and uncle were interested
in something called electricity and dynos (generators). Where do those electrons come from that are electricity?
Are you aware that it is vacuum above a wing that creates lift? There has to be some pressure underneath it otherwise airflow would cancel
itself out and flight wouldn't happen. As someone mentioned, the Wright Bros. realized that the propeller acted like a wing. When it creates a
vacuum in front of itself, does that increase the efficiency of the thrust it generates? It'd be the same for a gas turbine.

Aviation - Octave Chanute, The Chiago Connection and Birth of Aviation

www.lib.niu.edu

With Carillon Park, besides a steam powered machine shop, they had a replica Wright Bros. airplane with some original parts, log cabins from
before America was a country and basically showed how the U.S. went from settlers to the modern country it has become. Most Americans are
not aware of "real" American history.
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