Thunderjet
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There isn't any (covert) psychological manipulation occurring, just a typical workplace.
One manager is a stupid sadist, another is a stupid narcissistic- and they change roles on certain days.
The big boss tells everyone exactly what they want to hear,with saccharine 'Wow, that was the most brilliant scheme I've ever heard, my only applicant, I'll hire you'
You're 90% of the workforce.
Above all, don't get any idea whatsoever that they're going to listen to anything you have to say. If you still believe so, you're too insane to be running about at your own liberty.
Do what they say and graze until something better comes along.
Above all, don't get any idea whatsoever that they're going to listen to anything you have to say. If you still believe so, you're too insane to be running about at your own liberty.
Did anyone else get a headache trying to follow this thread?
JH
Did anyone else get a headache trying to follow this thread?
JH
no, just nausea
FWIW, giving him a pass on the title since it's his first post.
Hardinge seems to be hiring now for their newer "Made in America" push.
That is definitely one work place that is not filled with maniacal douche bags, (at least not yet) :-).
Nice folks.
Did anyone else get a headache trying to follow this thread?
JH
Classic bait and switch. I was in a similar situation last year in June.
Left a job to go to a different one. Got a huge pay raise ($7.50/hr) and was hired to program, setup and sometimes operate their lathes. Was also told that I might be working with the engineers sometimes to develop the part machining processes (this was weird to me to see engineers having an input on how parts are machined).
I got to program, setup and run a new part on the first week I was there. Second week I was put on a Haas lathe to run a production job because they didn't have anyone to do that because their Haas lathe guy had moved out of state. I thought ok, a production run here and there is ok.
As days went by I started to see that there was nothing for me at that job. They already had someone who programmed the lathes, and had 2 others who programmed the mills. The only way I would be doing any of that was if any of those guys were out on vacation or something. I got stuck on that one Haas lathe running different production jobs everyday from week 2 to week 5. All they really needed was someone to setup and run that particular machine. I don't know why they even hired me.
I decided that enough was enough and told the supervisor that the job is not for me and I would be leaving. Told them I would stay two more weeks if they needed me to and they were ok with that. They even offered another $2/hr more but no amount of money was going to make me stay miserable every day running 4 minute cycle time high volume production jobs. 7 weeks of misery was all I could put up with so I left.
You should probably jump right back in the market to find a new job. It doesn't sound like you will be doing what you want and like to do at this new job. Things will probably never change there for you.
Disturbing how many bosses with talk bad about a worker to a complete stranger.
Your writing skills are very poor !
If this illustrates how you think, you have a problem.
I tried to read the post, and just gave up.
There are a lot of companies where the owner and the upper management want the company to move in a direction but the middle managers are stuck in a groove which won't change.
On your next interview don't pay much attention to the wishes and promises of the owner but request a one on one with who ever will be your direct boss. Then just ask your future boss what exactly they want out of you.
Also one trick that has helped me in the past is to get your future boss to open up bit. Example....
While walking around the floor with your future boss try to pick out a worker struggling and ask the future boss about them(that guy a good worker?) if the boss starts bad mouthing the worker then pass on the job.
Disturbing how many bosses with talk bad about a worker to a complete stranger.
agreed, I was lied to by the CEO who told me all the things they had and did, and he wanted me to work there for a month on a trial.. without pay...
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Wonder how many workers will talk bad about their bosses to complete strangers? That's a much larger number.
We have to remember that workers and bosses are both human.
I think sometimes that workers view their boss like a child views their parents. That they aren't allowed to make mistakes, and that they should be held to some impossible standard.
I would say hold yourself to that same standard, and ask yourself honestly if you are perfect. Because you are the only one you have the power to change.
I agree there are more workers that talk bad about their bosses but for me the difference is I have to do what the boss says and they don't have to do what I say. I have had some really great bosses and owners over the years along with some great workers.
I've been on both sides and made mistakes on both sides. I used to actually care about the companies I worked for but that has changed. Now I just keep my mouth shut, head down, stay off the radar, dont make any waves, take nothing personal, turn down any new fancy job titles politely and do my best at the tasks given to me and go home. As per an old boss I once had "workers should be seen not heard".
Now I just count the hours until I'm off work to go live my life. I made the mistake thinking I could mingle the two at a job when I was younger. Still plan to hence me focusing on getting more work for myself off hours.
The interview process when I was younger was to show them my best and do whatever it took to get the job. Now older with experience I focus mostly on trying to get a good sense of the company and my future role day in and day out will be then make my choice.
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