Wrench, I have read a couple of your comments on the forum and hope that you may be able to help me. I have purchased a Emcoturn 242 with emcotronic tm02 controls. I have talked to Alan about it and wonder if can help me too. I bought it used and like usual you dont get everything that comes with the machine when its second hand. I have lost the MSD , per Alan, and need a copy or some instruction as how to get it. I have called Emco and they sent me to Siemens, they then sent me back to Emco and its a little frustrating as no one wants to claim this control. So, my next bet is the Pros on these machines. I fired it up after unloading it and get a small screen and no movement in any axis or spindle. It does fire up the AUX but does not want to reference or move in manual. I also, read of some having a problem with the + or - 5 volts and I see it in the back of the machine but, no indicating light is on. Any, help would be appreciated.Especially since I cant get it from the makers.Thanks