Amateur hour! Looking for some guidance

[jwiltse]

I recently brought a 13" South bend lathe home and set it up in my garage. The sn is 16931t which puts its manufacturing date early 1983. I am pretty green when it comes to lashes but looking to learn.
I purchased a nice Dayton forward/reverse switch today. I need to get the threading chart for it. Any assistance as to which one I need and where to buy one would be much appreciated. I also need collet's for the trail stock but I'm not sure which taper I need for mine. I was also considering adding a quick change tool post so any suggestions on that would be great.

 

[john.k]

........Tailstock barrel appears to be #3 Morse taper .

 

[CarbideBob]

Oh my, no chart above the pins.
That would be very confusing. Hopefully some member or book has one to print out and tape on or have engraved.

 

[JCal]

I just bought a reproduction threading chart for my 13 from Farm Boy sales on eBay. There is a used one on E bay in fair condition for less money. Tailstock is MT3.

 

[GenePoole]

You have a great lathe with a lot of potential. 1983 makes it 17 year newer than mine (1966), but otherwise very similar. Your's has the "Flame Hardened" ways (which is a huge plus) and D1-3 (or is it 4) chuck where mine is threaded. I can tell you that the tailstock should be an MT-3 taper. Get a live center and an Albrect-style Chuck with MT-3 arbors and you'll have most bases covered for tailstock. The best and most supported, holder-wise, would be the Aloris tool post but they are expensive. I have the Shars knockoff and it is an excellent clone.

It looks like it comes with 3 and 4 jaw chucks and a steady rest. That's good.

I'd have opted for a VFD over a reversing switch; it provides reverse plus adds variable speed and instant braking.

One other option for that lathe (not sure if it was offered with the D1-3 chucks or not) is the lever-closure 5C collet bar. I can't live without that.

Lot's of good folk here that can help you out with what you need to get up and running with this fine piece of American Iron.

MT-3 live center and toolpost shown here.

Good view showing the Albrect-style chuck:

I can't find any pictures of the lever end of the collet bar, but here's a pic of the kind of super fine work you can do with a 5C collet:

 

[jwiltse]

I was skeptical that my post would get any responses but you guys really came through! Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[jwiltse]

I just bought a reproduction threading chart for my 13 from Farm Boy sales on eBay. There is a used one on E bay in fair condition for less money. Tailstock is MT3.

Are all of the 13" threading charts the same or do I need a specific one for my lathe? Thanks again for the quick response.

 

[GenePoole]

Are all of the 13" threading charts the same or do I need a specific one for my lathe? Thanks again for the quick response.

I believe all of the dual-tumbler 13s (except metric) use the same ratios. Here's mine:

Looks like ebay has a repro:

SOUTH BEND LATHE PLATE 13" THREADING CHART TAG 7 7/8" X 2 3/4" Chart No. 1541T | eBay

Chart no. 1541T.

www.ebay.com

 

[packrat2]

Get the little book by South Bend How to run a lathe, it will show the threading chart, the SBL13 is a nice lathe..

 

[stephen thomas]

That's a great, late version of that lathe.
Really good that you got the original steady with it, too.

most of your Q's have been well answered.
Re: TP, get the B size.
Also be sure it is a wedge style, *not* (cheaper) piston style)
IOW "BXA"

As someone else mentioned, Shars is an option for sets. Sets are the cheapest way to get started.

Shars 10 - 15" CNC BXA Wedge Quick Change Tool Post Set 250-222 + Certificate M} | eBay

11/16" Retrofit GTN2 Cut-Off and Grooving Blades202-9576 11/16" Retrofit GTN3 Cut-Off and Grooving Blades 202-9577. Certificate for each batch. LATHE SWING 10-15. Lathe swing: 10" -15". Made of high quality Alloy tool steel 40Gr which is forged and has longer life,not Aluminum.

www.ebay.com

 

[jwiltse]

I believe all of the dual-tumbler 13s (except metric) use the same ratios. Here's mine:

Looks like ebay has a repro:

SOUTH BEND LATHE PLATE 13" THREADING CHART TAG 7 7/8" X 2 3/4" Chart No. 1541T | eBay

Chart no. 1541T.

www.ebay.com

Purchased. Thanks for all the help Robert

 

[jwiltse]

That's a great, late version of that lathe.
Really good that you got the original steady with it, too.

most of your Q's have been well answered.
Re: TP, get the B size.
Also be sure it is a wedge style, *not* (cheaper) piston style)
IOW "BXA"

As someone else mentioned, Shars is an option for sets. Sets are the cheapest way to get started.

Shars 10 - 15" CNC BXA Wedge Quick Change Tool Post Set 250-222 + Certificate M} | eBay

11/16" Retrofit GTN2 Cut-Off and Grooving Blades202-9576 11/16" Retrofit GTN3 Cut-Off and Grooving Blades 202-9577. Certificate for each batch. LATHE SWING 10-15. Lathe swing: 10" -15". Made of high quality Alloy tool steel 40Gr which is forged and has longer life,not Aluminum.

www.ebay.com

I purchased this exact model tool post and just brought it out to the garage and the t slot on the part does not fit. Any ideas. Can I machine it down to fit? machine it down or do I need to get a different

 

[lazz]

I purchased this exact model tool post and just brought it out to the garage and the t slot on the part does not fit. Any ideas. Can I machine it down to fit? machine it down or do I need to get a different

Make it fit your lathe.
A file is one option. If you have a tap for the bolt in your tool post you could turn the t-nut on your lathe. If you make the top round it works just fine. I would turn the bottom feature large and trim the round into a rectangle. Something like this video.
You can use lathe tooling in your lantern tool post.

 

[old_dave]

And to clarify, your spindle nose is a 4 inch type D1, usually expressed as a D1-4". In the mid-1970's South Bend made this the standard spindle nose for the heavy 10, 13 and 16 inch lathes. The L-00 and the threaded spindle noses were options.

David

 

[moonlight machine]

You need to get it off those carts. Lathes are very top heavy and will tip over in a heartbeat. If it goes over the damage will probably scrap it.

 

[jwiltse]

You have a great lathe with a lot of potential. 1983 makes it 17 year newer than mine (1966), but otherwise very similar. Your's has the "Flame Hardened" ways (which is a huge plus) and D1-3 (or is it 4) chuck where mine is threaded. I can tell you that the tailstock should be an MT-3 taper. Get a live center and an Albrect-style Chuck with MT-3 arbors and you'll have most bases covered for tailstock. The best and most supported, holder-wise, would be the Aloris tool post but they are expensive. I have the Shars knockoff and it is an excellent clone.

It looks like it comes with 3 and 4 jaw chucks and a steady rest. That's good.

I'd have opted for a VFD over a reversing switch; it provides reverse plus adds variable speed and instant braking.

One other option for that lathe (not sure if it was offered with the D1-3 chucks or not) is the lever-closure 5C collet bar. I can't live without that.

Lot's of good folk here that can help you out with what you need to get up and running with this fine piece of American Iron.

MT-3 live center and toolpost shown here.

Good view showing the Albrect-style chuck:

I can't find any pictures of the lever end of the collet bar, but here's a pic of the kind of super fine work you can do with a 5C collet:

If I go with a vfd for this lathe which one would you recommend? It is a 2hp motor

 

[michiganbuck]

I also need collet's for the trail stock (X)
you need centers and a drill chuck for the tail stock.

 

[michiganbuck]

I also need collet's for the trail stock (X)
You need centers and a drill chuck for the tailstock.
Nice looking lathe.
Rocker is Ok for one-up work. and is quick/easy to swing around for angles and the like, and lining up your hand ground Threading tool bit.
A Newbie project is a T-tap wrench that goes on a post. and travel 3" on the post.
It can be used on a post out of tour tailsstock chuck, or a post held in your drill press..
A nice project because it has a lot of handy features, and is handy to use..