Thank you, you are correct, it is a 1941. Nice Workshop 9-inch ...I like it.
Steve
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I have a Southbend - 10 - model -A , Cat. # CL 8187 ZB 3 -1/2 bed length serial # on bed 4411RK L11 , can you give me any information on it ?
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i have a south bend 10 , the bull gear is missing teeth , its a 75 tooth bull gear , I think i have to replace it with the same tooth bull gear to maintain the feed rates and thread settings on the gear box ? Has anyone tried some of the other bull gears with 73,74,76,77 tooth gears as replacement ?
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Hello all, figuring I'm a new member, and just purchased a 9A, s/n 175819, I would add a few pictures. Looking at Steve's site it appears to be a 1946. A few pics:
It needs a few things, but nothing major it appears. It should be fine for what I need it for!.
It needs a few things, but nothing major it appears. It should be fine for what I need it for!.
1965 Heavy Ten, that was a good year. I was 11-years old then, went with my father to the Chevy dealership to buy a new Biscayne 4-door, 3-speed on the column. That became my first car 4-years later.
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1952 Heavy Ten Tool-Room Lathe, a short one too, perfect home shop lathe.
Make a new post on the main SBL forum, Ted will respond if he has one, there are also several people on the 3 Facebook SBL groups that have parts. If all else fails, send me an e-mail and I'll send you a list of other sellers and those that can make the gear you need.
It is a 1946, very nice condition too...a catalog number 644-Z, 12-speed.
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Thank you for that, I am still getting acquainted with it. I look that up!
The first owner was "Packard",that's all I have.
I just picked up 44911-A which I appears to be a 9"x4 1/2' Model "O" Junior. The card states:
Customer H. W. Burkitt Morrison, IL
Jobber Direct.
Catalog No. #422-RN (the plate on the gear cover just says "22-R")
Type Lathe JR.BENCH, HOR.ADJ.MD
Saddle JR
Apron JR
R. P. Gear 6
Overall Length of Spindle 12"
Size Lathe 9" x 4 1/2'
Date Shipped 2/10/37
Remarks: GRAY
The date doesn't seem to correspond to the serial # in the list. The lathe has a bunch of accessories - and also legs.
My thread:
Troy
Customer H. W. Burkitt Morrison, IL
Jobber Direct.
Catalog No. #422-RN (the plate on the gear cover just says "22-R")
Type Lathe JR.BENCH, HOR.ADJ.MD
Saddle JR
Apron JR
R. P. Gear 6
Overall Length of Spindle 12"
Size Lathe 9" x 4 1/2'
Date Shipped 2/10/37
Remarks: GRAY
The date doesn't seem to correspond to the serial # in the list. The lathe has a bunch of accessories - and also legs.
My thread:
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Good day from a new user here in Norway
Got a hold of an older SB 9 x 3 1/2, havnt had the time to clean it up or even connect it for testing yet.
But as i was quite curious of what year it was from, so i got the serial card from Grizzly.
The lathe got the quick change gearbox and quick change toolholders. everything seems to be in good condition so far, with what i think is all the complete changegears too.
cant wait to connect it and propperly test it out.
Im new to SB lathes so any info is appreciated.
Got a hold of an older SB 9 x 3 1/2, havnt had the time to clean it up or even connect it for testing yet.
But as i was quite curious of what year it was from, so i got the serial card from Grizzly.
The lathe got the quick change gearbox and quick change toolholders. everything seems to be in good condition so far, with what i think is all the complete changegears too.
cant wait to connect it and propperly test it out.
Im new to SB lathes so any info is appreciated.
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Hi Troy,
My best guess here would be that this lathe was a display model at South Bend. That would explain the 1929 serial number and a much later delivery date, and that was not uncommon for South Bend to sell the display room lathes to clear inventory and add newer models. They often sent out mailers with slightly used and discounted models, especially during the 1930's. This would be a Series O Junior serial number, in the mid 30's they replaced the series O junior with the series R junior, different apron, but retained the catalog number 22. From the card information it shipped with bench mounting feet and a mid 1930's series R adjustable HMD drive (422), so the floor legs may be another mystery, but they have approx. a $300.00 value in the steampunk world. I've turned down several offers in that range for a set I have. The lathe may have been displayed on floor legs to save space, but shipped with a set of bench feet included so the customer could mount it with the new series R horizontal drive to a bench. Post a photo of the apron to confirm it's still a series O, as I've seen a few of the late Series O's converted to R series at the factory to update them. Also it would have been originally black in 1929, and clearly states it was painted gray, which started in about 1934 with the R series, the Workshop series, and the Tool-Maker series. The card does state a 12-inch spindle length, which is a generation 2 Series O spindle. That would be prior to mid 1930, the Gen 3 Series O had a 12-3/4 spindle (the last Series O lathes) so the headstock is probably 1929 as per the SN.
Very interesting post, thank you for sharing, and post more photos...
Steve
Great example of a late model Workshop 9-inch, including the Belt Cover!!
Very hard to find a more complete lathe in this condition.
Thank you for the serial number information and photos.
Discontinued in late 1969, I believe, I've not seen one past that year.
Steve
I had seen some of the (original) ads for used/demo equipment and wondered if this could have been the case. My other thought was that South Bend bragged that they had something like 140 lathes used for production (around 1930) and maybe they upgraded the factory. Not sure how that would have been recorded though. I don't know the difference in the "R" vs "O" apron so now I have to go look. I've started cleaning it up. Waiting on some spindle and way oil. I don't currently have space to set it up to run but I'll try to get more pictures where it is.Hi Troy,
My best guess here would be that this lathe was a display model at South Bend. That would explain the 1929 serial number and a much later delivery date, and that was not uncommon for South Bend to sell the display room lathes to clear inventory and add newer models. They often sent out mailers with slightly used and discounted models, especially during the 1930's. This would be a Series O Junior serial number, in the mid 30's they replaced the series O junior with the series R junior, different apron, but retained the catalog number 22. From the card information it shipped with bench mounting feet and a mid 1930's series R adjustable HMD drive (422), so the floor legs may be another mystery, but they have approx. a $300.00 value in the steampunk world. I've turned down several offers in that range for a set I have. The lathe may have been displayed on floor legs to save space, but shipped with a set of bench feet included so the customer could mount it with the new series R horizontal drive to a bench. Post a photo of the apron to confirm it's still a series O, as I've seen a few of the late Series O's converted to R series at the factory to update them. Also it would have been originally black in 1929, and clearly states it was painted gray, which started in about 1934 with the R series, the Workshop series, and the Tool-Maker series. The card does state a 12-inch spindle length, which is a generation 2 Series O spindle. That would be prior to mid 1930, the Gen 3 Series O had a 12-3/4 spindle (the last Series O lathes) so the headstock is probably 1929 as per the SN.
Very interesting post, thank you for sharing, and post more photos...
Steve
Troy
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thank you , i purchased one on e- bay !
Oskar Blue
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Thank you !
Oskar Blue
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i would have been 12 years old when it was made . I got my fathers , 1961 Chevy Impala as my first car . LOL !
I have a 36 11" R series s/n 81018. Having a lot of chatter problems. Everything is tight , I even installed screw to replace spring loaded back gear pin. Main spindle bearings have been shimmed still have chatter that resonates in the headstock. Any suggestions out there. Tring to find new bearings with no success.
T